Leave your feedback on these Venturing award prototypes

Now that the requirements for the new Venturing awards have been released, attention turns to what the awards themselves will look like.

Will they be medals? Badges? A combination of the two?

Turns out you and other Venturers or Venturing advisors can have a say in the final decision. But you need to leave your feedback soon.

Most Venturers I’ve talked to want awards that look unique to Venturing — something nobody else has. No matter what ends up being used to represent the Venturing, Discovery, Pathfinder and Summit awards, the new requirements show me that these awards will help Venturers get even more out of an already awesome program.

The volunteer-led team behind the changes to Venturing is looking for constructive feedback based on the pictures I’ve posted below. As we learned in Wood Badge, feedback is a gift and will be treated as such.

The collection of sticky notes you see is from volunteers and professionals who left their feedback in person at the National Annual Meeting in Nashville, Tenn., this week. But you have a voice, too, so be heard by leaving a comment.

Time is of the essence here, so please share your feedback by Wednesday, May 28.

Medals

Important: The medals below are in first-draft form. The actual ones would look much nicer and have a loop on top, like the very unique-looking Powder Horn award.

In other words, use your imagination on these. The first three would be shiny and powder-coated, and the yellow would be the real Venturing yellow — which didn’t come out well in the prototype. The Summit award (far right) would be bright chrome with reflective black enamel.

As you look from left to right, you’ll see the Venturing, Discovery, Pathfinder and Summit awards.

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Patch Design A

Venturing awards - A

Patch Design B

From top: Pathfinder, Discovery, Venturing. The Summit Award would be a separate medal if this option is selected.

Venturing awards - B

Patch Design C

From top: Pathfinder, Discovery, Venturing. The Summit Award would be a separate medal if this option is selected.

Venturing awards - C

What do you think?

Do you like the medals? The patches? A combination? Share your comments.

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278 thoughts on “Leave your feedback on these Venturing award prototypes

    • After posting this I came across proposals for a new square knot design. I have to state that I like these proposals very much.

  1. I must say that I finally looked over the earlier posts with links to proposals for medals and patches from our youth members, and all I can say is I am very impressed! These ideas need to be strongly considered.

  2. Sorry I entered this conversation later…but here’s my suggestions for what they are worth.

    The basic design for Boy Scouting’s ranks are ovals. Within that oval are the traditional representations of the rank. Since Venturing draws from much of its Exploring beginnings, I propose that we use a rank structure which would be easy to visualize and meaningful to those in and outside of Venturing.

    The basic rank of Venturer should be represented by a cloth emblem, two inches square, with a kelly green border and a fully embroidered Venturing logo emblem in the center of the kelly green background and worn centered on the left pocket. The Arrow of Light can be worn immediately under it by those who earned it as a Cub Scout; and the Eagle and Venturing rank could be worn side-by-side by Eagle Scouts (we’ll leave the order to the holder). The rank for the Discovery rank should be this same emblem, with a bronze mylar border and a bronze bar above the logo.
    The rank emblem for the Pathfinder rank would be this same emblem with a gold mylar border and gold bar; and the Summit rank emblem would feature the same emblem (or perhaps the medallion emblem…more on that in a moment) with a silver mylar border and silver bar atop the Venturing logo.

    The medallion would be presented in three manners, to make it distinguishable and wearable in all circumstances by the Summit holder: a medallion, similar in size to the BSA’s Order of the Arrow’s Founders’ Award; a wearable medallion, nor more than an inch and a half in diameter, worn on a ribbon with a green, gold and brown striped ribbon; and a silver lapel pin with the design of the medallion 1 inch in diameter. This presents several different manners that the award can be presented and along with the cloth patch (and the EXISTING SILVER AWARD SQUARE KNOT EMBLEM!!!), would be suitable recognition for a Summit Award holder.

    More importantly, he or she can wear the representation formally and informally. The square knot emblem, as with all youth rank square knot emblems, are worn only by those 21 and older, since the cloth rank could be worn by Venturers until they turn 21.

    One other minor suggestion: the Venturing rank emblems would be able to be worn centered on the left pocket of the various jackets and jac-shirts and in particular the green and red jac-shirts.

  3. Oops…hit that “post” button too early…

    The large medallion would be placed on a pedestal with the name of the Summit Award holder. Bars in green, bronze, gold and silver with the Venturing logo in the center would be available for informal wear and for Venturing units not using the traditional green field uniform.

    Okay. I’m done.

  4. HAVING BEEN A SCOUT FOR FIFTY YEARS I AGREE ON THE PATCH DESIGN SIMILAR TO BOY SCOUTING. ANYTHING THAT COMES IN PARTS ARE TOO COMPLICATED TO SEW ON THE NEW FABRIC. RANK ADVANCEMENT WITH DISTINCT PATCHES THE RECIPIANT WOULD HAVE THE PREVIOUS PATCH TO ADD TO THEIR COLLECTION.

    THAT BRINGS UP MY OTHER GRIPE WHEN ARE WE GOING BACK TO THE OLD SHIRT FABRIC. IN THE SOUTHWEST THE SHIRTS DON’T BREATH AND STICK TO THE PERSON WEARING THEM. WE NEED THE SHIRT WITH THE COTTON POLY MATERIAL WHICH ALSO IS MORE FLAME RESISTANT. MINE HAS NUMEROUS HOLES ALREADY FROM SPARKS FROM A CAMPFIRE AND IT’S LESS THAN ONE YEAR OLD. I REFUSE TO WEAR IT IN THE SUMMER AND THAT IS NINE MONTHS OF THE YEAR HERE.

    MEDALS ARE ONLY TO BE WORN WHEN RECEIVED. MILITARY. AND ON DRESS UNIFORMS CLASS ‘A’. WEARING A MEDAL ON A SHIRT ON MOST SCOUTING OCCAISIONS ONLY LEADS TO LOSS OR DAMAGE. REPEATED PINNING OF MEDALS TEARS THE SHIRT AND LEADS TO PREMATURE FAILURE OF THE SHIRT. I THINK IF SCOUTING HAS AWARDS THAT ARE NOT SEQUENTIAL THEY SHOULD BE OFFERED WITH KNOTS. IF WE OFFER MEDALS AND THEY ARE TO BE WORN REPEATEDLY THEN OFFER SHITS WITH BUTTON HOLE REINFORCEMENT LIKE FIRE/POLICE/MILITARY WHERE THE BADGE GOES AND NAME PLATE. I PAID TO HAVE MY SHIRTS REINFORCED WHERE MY NAME TAG GOES TO PREVENT EARLY FAILURE. YEAH I’M ONE OF THOSE ONE HOUR A WEEK SCOUTERS.

  5. I prefer something other than complex patch shapes. I work with Sea Scouts, and they have enough trouble sewing on square or circular patches. Youth should be able to sew on their own patches (Badge Magic and Scout Shop contractors should not be needed for Venturers). I recommend a different patch for each rank. I prefer patches for the three lower ranks. Medals, in general, seem to me to should be reserved for the highest (i.e. Summit) award. I am generally turned off by the options I see.

    The medals do show a bit of a more viable option as patches, i.e.:
    Venturer – Single green color diamond shaped patch, ghost sewn.
    Discoverer – Add bright yellow V
    Pathfinder – Add bright white mountain snow
    Summit – Add silver or gold border around edges (patch). Have a medal for formal wear, same design, with closinné enamel, ribbon of white, green, & yellow.

    Historically, the Explorer Scout badges were a basic badge with three different symbols in the center for the three higher ranks. The Explorer Apprentice was a distinct badge, but the only distinction in Bronze, Gold and Silver was the color of the badge. Simplicity works. Some people were determined to do away with our history, but simplicity is still good.

  6. Patch A looks like a sewing nightmare! The fabric of the Venturing shirts is inherently more difficult to sew on than anything, especially on the pocket. Trying to sew all the cuts and angles of the patches over the course of months or years as the fabric ages, while also trying to keep adjacent patches looking like they belong together seems impossible. The other patch designs are only marginally better, but having to remove one patch to replace it with another (re-sewing over the same aging fabric) is a bad idea. The medals are not bad, but I agree with other posters that they are vulnerable to loss and that repeated pinning damages the fabric.

    I like the idea of something akin to the knots. They don’t have to be “knots,” per se, but about the same size/shape, sewn in a similar area (not on the pocket) as the knots, above or below the pocket.

    • Good points! What I recommend is a simple oval patch (like “C”, but with the points inside the oval) that is easy to sew on. “Ranks” should be replaceable items. If the patch included a thread-worked grommet, a pin could be inserted through it–no sewing needed and low impact to fabric.

  7. I really like the patch as shown for each level of Venturing, but have to admit it would be a nightmare to deal with the sewing! I do, however, like the idea of designing a patch (much like a scouting rank patch) that would be replaced for each level. However, with the Summit, I strongly suggest that it be treated like the Eagle. You have a “rank” patch for your uniform and a medal for ceremonial wear. If we want our highest award to be the equivalent of the Scouting highest award, we need to treat it as such!!!

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